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» Awakenings - John Rowan - 'The Centaur, Subtle, Causal and Non-Dual' - Interview by Iain McNay
Started to work in the Transpersonal field in 1982 and wrote the book, 'The Transpersonal: Spirituality in Psychotherapy and Counselling'. John also co-wrote, 'The Therapist's Use of Self' arguing that the transpersonal has a unique contribution to make in the therapy field. He has been exploring the higher levels of mysticism since 2003, and has written several papers with detailed arguments, as well as leading transpersonal workshops in 25 countries.

In this interview we hear about John's fascinating history and explore the Centaur, Subtle, Causal and Non-Dual states and demonstrate the differences between these stages.

'In my daily work as a psychotherapist I attune myself to the client's way of being, in order to get on to the same wavelength, so to speak. I am what has been called 'an authentic trickster' in the sense that I can genuinely match the client's level of consciousness at all times. In other words I do not claim to be a dedicated mystic who is always at, say, the Non-Dual level of consciousness. I would rather claim to be able to enter that state at will or as appropriate.'

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